Thank John, I have enjoyed your site as bystander for some time ...wonderful place to browse and enjoy.

Tusquittee Community in Clay County NC reaches out to save the Chunky Gal Trail, connecting trail to AT. Please see: http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/nfsnc/news-events/?cid=STELPRDB5387685 Instruction for leaving comments to USFS on link ... No need for this shooting range because two others on USFS lands are within 25 minutes, and noise will ruin the pristine, precious Chunky Gal Trail. Any support from fellow hikers is most welcome - hard deadline is this Monday, September 24. Please send comments to USFS per instructions with name and address to have standing.  Kind regards fellow Smoky Lovers!  Welcome to Tusquittee - paradise of Southern Appalachia !!

John http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/nfsnc/news-events/?cid=STELPRDB5387685

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Comment by John McGuinness on April 12, 2013 at 7:05am

Greg,

I think that is a great idea.  Let's discuss. I hope to see you in Knoxville 4/27.

Comment by Gregg Bostick on April 9, 2013 at 11:10am

John,

I have the information you sent regarding the sound impact studies printed in high quality color.  Perhaps we can get that laminated and have in the booth at Rossini as well.

Comment by John Quillen on April 9, 2013 at 9:48am

John,

We are sponsoring a booth at the Rossini Festival, April 27.  It would be a great opportunity for you to come spread the word about chunky gal, if you like.  There are 50,000 people in attendance there.  Hit me up to let me know what is happening with this issue.

Comment by John Quillen on October 31, 2012 at 6:53pm
Comment by John Quillen on September 27, 2012 at 6:34pm

John,

Go ahead and send it to me.  I will give you my personal email.  Check your gotsmokies email.

 

Comment by John McGuinness on September 26, 2012 at 6:48am

Thank you John,

If you like, I can send you the combined comments issued to the USFS from the Western North Carolina Alliance and the Wilderness Society - with attachments the e-mail is 3MG large, however it demonstrates graphically the probable noise impact on the Chunky Gal Trail.  In their response, I think they reveal how arbitrary USFS decisions can be.  Largely it depends on who the current Ranger happens to be - objectivity and consistency can go out the window as in this case.

I learned that Marisue Hilliard was leaving this position and do not yet know who replaced her.

I think support from the Southern Forest Watch would be a tremendous help.

John

Comment by John Quillen on September 24, 2012 at 10:43pm

John,

I think that we can make certain they incorporate the public comments into the final policy outcome.  I have already expressed mine.  We have discussed this issue and would be willing, the Southern Forest Watch, to send a message to the National Forest Director.  Is it still Marisue Hilliard?  I have dealt with her before.

Comment by John McGuinness on September 19, 2012 at 10:05am

The folks pushing this are closely connected with some local USFS people (existing and former). There are actually five shooting ranges on USFS lands on counties bordering Clay County (in Macon, Cherokeen, Rabun, and Towns counties - the last two in GA) - Clay County is geographically the smallest county in NC. The closest two shooting ranges are Panther Top in Cherokee and Chatuge Gun Club in Towns - these are both full use shooting ranges offering everything that would be allowed in the proposed new shooting Range.  The distance to the closest shooting range is currently not much different than distance to the closest Walmart, Home Depot, or Lowes. The reason they are pushing this is only because they want their own range, not because a range is not convenient.  If you like, I will send a computer model of the sound impact on the Chunky Gal Trail.  The EA is misleading - volunteers during a sound test said the sound level was extremely loud for a distance of 2- 2.5 miles on the trail.

Thanks for comments.

Comment by Jim Casada on September 19, 2012 at 8:43am

John--I would think your argument against construction of another range could be strengthened by (1) Showing that the nearby ranges are readily accessible, if indeed that is the case, and that they are more than adequate to serve the needs of hunters and recreational shooters, (2) Showing that they provide all the shooting options (i. e., pistol range, shotgun area, 100-yard or 200-yard rifle range, etc.) normally found at such facilities, and (3) Suggesting that the local shooting group might want to consider taking over and/or improving one of the two existing facilities.  Providing that information in your comments and as part of your opposition should greatly strengthen your case.

On the other hand, if the existing facilities are not multi-purpose ranges, your argument is going to be appreciably weakened.

Jim Casada

Comment by John Quillen on September 19, 2012 at 8:28am

John,

We have been discussing this situation and have a couple of questions.  Jim Casada has local roots there and is a hunter who wondered about the other shooting ranges close by.  Do you know more about why there is such a drive to create this?  Political patronage etc?

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